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Evolution is Bullcrap
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Beirgo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Evolution is Bullcrap Reply with quote

A lot of text to read, but I have to get this off my chest. Friends don't let friends be spoon-fed bullcrap, right?

http://www.whyevolution.com/giraffe.html

It's impossible for the giraffe to evolve, therefore ripping the THEORY a new one. Draw what you want from this, but I can't stand being taught obvious bullcrap like that in school daily. It's like teaching that the world is flat, and suing whoever says otherwise!

.....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi 5... i totaly agree with you
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This proves nothing...
Say we are in the 17th century
We know the earth is round, but yet you can only see a few miles at a time, so DISPROVED!!!

That article only confirmed that Giraffes' long necks weren't conjured up by natural selection.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just makign you look at it from another angle. (no pun intended)
it's a good experiment.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oni wrote:
This proves nothing...
Say we are in the 17th century
We know the earth is round, but yet you can only see a few miles at a time, so DISPROVED!!!

That article only confirmed that Giraffes' long necks weren't conjured up by natural selection.


you can tell you are a twelve year old...yes it proves that giraffes cannot evolve via natural selection...which blows the theory out of the water. The giraffe would have to have all three of those evolve at once and be fully operational...not evolution...because in natural selection-powered evolution the giraffe would need to hit problems that kill the bad ones off, except this is a 100% fatal problem...the giraffe can't avoid it, otherwise it would thirst to death.

-also the flat theory was based on observations (not even scientific) and Christianity's unfounded belief that jerusalem was the center of the world.

-this is based on the giraffe's circulatory & muscular system, (completely scientific and proved) not just general observation.

cmon Oni, you're smarter than this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beirgo wrote:

you can tell you are a twelve year old...


Holy crap I went back a couple years. HUZZAH!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, that was a little below the belt on my part :]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence"
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is that supposed to mean, it is clearly evidence. the valves in the giraffes neck have to be there to stop the giraffes 3lb heart from pumping so much blood into its brain to burst it.

then there is the sponge of capilaries underneath its brain that absorb the last valve of blood and pump it slowly into the brain so the giraffe doesn't pass out.

then there are the valves in the vein back to it's three pound heart, that keep it from passing out and getting eaten by whatever when it gets back up

all three must be there or the giraffe will die, that is evidence, not the absense of.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back on a serious note, that proves nothing about evolution being bullcrap.

It just says that the most commonly used explanation is wrong. The most commonly used explanation was so it could reach higher plants in the dry seasons. I will admit that this is in fact wrong. The long necks came about through mating. Girraffes would fight eachother for a mate, by throwing their necks at eachother. The longer the neck the heavier, the heavier the neck the more damaging, the more damage the girraffe's neck does the more likely it is to win not only that but other fights as well, allowing it to pass on it's genes so that their offspring have long and heavy necks, which helps them mate more due to their heavy necks.

Also, the bottom of the page asks "Where are the giraffe NECK evolution fossils ?

Answer: NO one has seen them ! "

Well according to the top of the page, that was written in 1996. So that may have been true in 1996 but nowadays there is fossil evidence of giraffe's with shorter necks, making the information on that outdated.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lols I just posted that site because I didn't want to explain more, and the other site I saw that on last year was shut down,

however, the mating neck process still doesn't disprove what I said. The heart still pumps enough blood to the head, (hard and fast enough so it can beat the intense gravitational resistance) that when it has gravity on its side, it will burst its brain without the valves on the artery & vein and the sponge.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beirgo wrote:
lols I just posted that site because I didn't want to explain more, and the other site I saw that on last year was shut down,

however, the mating neck process still doesn't disprove what I said. The heart still pumps enough blood to the head, (hard and fast enough so it can beat the intense gravitational resistance) that when it has gravity on its side, it will burst its brain without the valves on the artery & vein and the sponge.


What does that have to do with disproving evolution?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because the giraffe couldn't possibly evolve, period.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're both wrong. The giraffe was artificially created through genetic engineering and magic by the forefathers, who originally founded a company named "Toys R Us." The company is a front for the secret organization they are from, an organization that has established it's headquarters far into the future, where such technological and magical advances allow the creation of such a vile and yet cute creature.

That's why the mascot for Toys R Us is a giraffe... If you rearrange the letters of "toys r us" you can unlock several secret messages, including the coordinates of their headquarters.

(unfortunately, finding physical location... that's not the problem. Finding out where exactly in time the headquarters exists and how travel there through the time medium... now that is a problem worth solving)


Toys R Us... the giraffe... evolution... what does it all mean?! Shocked I'm baffled. I will leave these problems in the hands of you, the younger generation... im counting on you! the whole world is...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am guessing you are a creationist who believes in The Holy Bible then?
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